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		<title>by: Mama Bee</title>
		<link>http://www.bellytales.com/2007/03/29/the-need-for-speed/#comment-11210</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 14:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I had concurrent care for my first pregnancy--First off I had my home birth CPM who came to my house on the regular prenatal schedule, spent at least an hour with me--almost all talking and answering questions while I drank tea--then onto the measuring, pee evaluation, occassional hemoglobin testing. The best part is that she explained it all to me and taught me how to read the urine strips and explained all the notes she took and her shorthand. I truly felt empowered to understand what was going on.  

Second I went into the OB clinic to see my CNM every 6-8 weeks or so where I could get any lab tests I wanted, sonogram, etc. (most of which I declined.) At the office I waited in the waiting room for 20-60 minutes, my CNM had a reputation for being slow which meant I usually got to talk to her for 20 minutes or so--maybe 30.  I always felt respected, listened to, at ease, even unhurried, and I really liked all the people there. I knew that if I ended up needing to go the hospital I would be in good hands with a person I trusted.

That said, I left the clinic feeling like I'd been through a whirlwind and inevitably remembered questions I'd meant to ask after the fact. I much preferred the unhurried, detailed, talk as much as I needed to visits at home with my CPM. It's a real shame more women can't get that kind of real personal, unhurried care.  As a patient, I know when a health care practitioner wants me to get to the point--even when they're always willing to listen and answer questions, there's a part of their brain hoping that this is the last one. 

The best ones hide it better and work on giving off a sense of "I have all the time in the world." I wish you all the best luck if you stay in a hurried, tight, clinical setting. And yes, listening to women is what midwifery is all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had concurrent care for my first pregnancy&#8211;First off I had my home birth CPM who came to my house on the regular prenatal schedule, spent at least an hour with me&#8211;almost all talking and answering questions while I drank tea&#8211;then onto the measuring, pee evaluation, occassional hemoglobin testing. The best part is that she explained it all to me and taught me how to read the urine strips and explained all the notes she took and her shorthand. I truly felt empowered to understand what was going on.  </p>
<p>Second I went into the OB clinic to see my CNM every 6-8 weeks or so where I could get any lab tests I wanted, sonogram, etc. (most of which I declined.) At the office I waited in the waiting room for 20-60 minutes, my CNM had a reputation for being slow which meant I usually got to talk to her for 20 minutes or so&#8211;maybe 30.  I always felt respected, listened to, at ease, even unhurried, and I really liked all the people there. I knew that if I ended up needing to go the hospital I would be in good hands with a person I trusted.</p>
<p>That said, I left the clinic feeling like I&#8217;d been through a whirlwind and inevitably remembered questions I&#8217;d meant to ask after the fact. I much preferred the unhurried, detailed, talk as much as I needed to visits at home with my CPM. It&#8217;s a real shame more women can&#8217;t get that kind of real personal, unhurried care.  As a patient, I know when a health care practitioner wants me to get to the point&#8211;even when they&#8217;re always willing to listen and answer questions, there&#8217;s a part of their brain hoping that this is the last one. </p>
<p>The best ones hide it better and work on giving off a sense of &#8220;I have all the time in the world.&#8221; I wish you all the best luck if you stay in a hurried, tight, clinical setting. And yes, listening to women is what midwifery is all about.
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		<title>by: k</title>
		<link>http://www.bellytales.com/2007/03/29/the-need-for-speed/#comment-10570</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gee, can I sell Canadian midwifery or what?
sorry.  I'll shut up now!
;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, can I sell Canadian midwifery or what?<br />
sorry.  I&#8217;ll shut up now!<br />
;-)
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		<title>by: k</title>
		<link>http://www.bellytales.com/2007/03/29/the-need-for-speed/#comment-10569</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>ahem... we have the PLEA's up here.  
Most of our midwives have done their studies South of the boarder either in person or through correspondence!  I know that all three that I worked with did.  The fourth was an L&#38;D nurse and decided to head over to midwifery on her own!  So...
No more school.  Only studying... 
Well, the beloved boy may not be so crazy about Canada... but at least we are part of the Commonwealth?  Right beloved boy?  Not all Canadians are awful!:-)
And from what I'm reading... The big beautiful country across the puddle is getting desperate too!  You may not need to do so much as an equivalent to a plea over there.  We lost one fairly new midwife to love and England at Christmas.  She is up and practicing as I type... well maybe, it is night time over there after all! 
grins!
K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahem&#8230; we have the PLEA&#8217;s up here.<br />
Most of our midwives have done their studies South of the boarder either in person or through correspondence!  I know that all three that I worked with did.  The fourth was an L&amp;D nurse and decided to head over to midwifery on her own!  So&#8230;<br />
No more school.  Only studying&#8230;<br />
Well, the beloved boy may not be so crazy about Canada&#8230; but at least we are part of the Commonwealth?  Right beloved boy?  Not all Canadians are awful!:-)<br />
And from what I&#8217;m reading&#8230; The big beautiful country across the puddle is getting desperate too!  You may not need to do so much as an equivalent to a plea over there.  We lost one fairly new midwife to love and England at Christmas.  She is up and practicing as I type&#8230; well maybe, it is night time over there after all!<br />
grins!<br />
K
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		<title>by: The Student</title>
		<link>http://www.bellytales.com/2007/03/29/the-need-for-speed/#comment-10294</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I can't move to Canada, my dear, because then I would have to go to school all over again, and that is NOT going to be happening for quite some time.  It's already bad enough that my beloved boy is British, and there's a very good chance that we'll be moving to England in a few years.  Unfortunately, I already tried once to have my nursing license transferred over to England so that I could work as a nurse in London, and they wouldn't accept my qualifications because I had done an accelerrated nursing program and didn't have enough clinical hours to meet their standards.  So, because I'm not qualified as a nurse in england already, I will have to do a combined nursing AND midwifery course of study all over again in order to qualify as a midwife over there, which is another 3 years of school!!  Ugh!  I can't even fathom it. I told my beloved boy that he has to let me be a midwife here in the States for at least 2 years, just to get a chance to savor the fact that I'm actually a *midwife*, before we even talk about moving back to England.  The thought is not appealing, either in England or Canada.  ;-)  I wish they made it easier for us to transfer our degrees between countries!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t move to Canada, my dear, because then I would have to go to school all over again, and that is NOT going to be happening for quite some time.  It&#8217;s already bad enough that my beloved boy is British, and there&#8217;s a very good chance that we&#8217;ll be moving to England in a few years.  Unfortunately, I already tried once to have my nursing license transferred over to England so that I could work as a nurse in London, and they wouldn&#8217;t accept my qualifications because I had done an accelerrated nursing program and didn&#8217;t have enough clinical hours to meet their standards.  So, because I&#8217;m not qualified as a nurse in england already, I will have to do a combined nursing AND midwifery course of study all over again in order to qualify as a midwife over there, which is another 3 years of school!!  Ugh!  I can&#8217;t even fathom it. I told my beloved boy that he has to let me be a midwife here in the States for at least 2 years, just to get a chance to savor the fact that I&#8217;m actually a *midwife*, before we even talk about moving back to England.  The thought is not appealing, either in England or Canada.  <img src='http://www.bellytales.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I wish they made it easier for us to transfer our degrees between countries!!!
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		<title>by: k</title>
		<link>http://www.bellytales.com/2007/03/29/the-need-for-speed/#comment-10268</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yup, here in MB we have hour long slots too.  Granted some are cut short, or just are shorter by nature.  
Hellooooo!  You can have the best of both worlds up here!  HINT HINT HINT!!!!
Work in a "clinic" with three other midwives then do visits both at the office, and at homes!!!  And best of all, you have to allot a certain amount of "clients" for homebirths.  Yuppers... no joke, have to take clients for homebirths, not just at the hospitals!  
ahem.... I believe I'm going to start begging soon! :-)
You sound a lot more relaxed in general, from the last post.  Time is time, women are priceless.  
Thank you for seeing that for what it is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, here in MB we have hour long slots too.  Granted some are cut short, or just are shorter by nature.<br />
Hellooooo!  You can have the best of both worlds up here!  HINT HINT HINT!!!!<br />
Work in a &#8220;clinic&#8221; with three other midwives then do visits both at the office, and at homes!!!  And best of all, you have to allot a certain amount of &#8220;clients&#8221; for homebirths.  Yuppers&#8230; no joke, have to take clients for homebirths, not just at the hospitals!<br />
ahem&#8230;. I believe I&#8217;m going to start begging soon! <img src='http://www.bellytales.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
You sound a lot more relaxed in general, from the last post.  Time is time, women are priceless.<br />
Thank you for seeing that for what it is!
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		<title>by: The Student</title>
		<link>http://www.bellytales.com/2007/03/29/the-need-for-speed/#comment-10266</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm sure it's very much appreciated too.  In fact, I have a feeling a lot of the women I see repeatedly for their prenatal visits really enjoy their visits with me, for that very reason.    

Midwifery serves many different purposes and roles.  For many midwives, this means private practice and offering a vibrant, viable birth alternative to women, which is indeed one of the great things about midwifery, and one of the reasons many women seek out midwifery care.  But in New York, many of the midwifery positions available are in large clinics in hospital settings (although of course birth centers and private practice and homebirth exists here too).  In the hospitals, midwives serve a different role: not so much to offer a viable birth alternative to women who specifically seek out midwifery care (although that sort of happens, just by virtue of having midwives there), but to give excellent, low-risk care to many of the low risk, underserved, immigrant populations which exist in this city.  None of the women in this population really seek out midwives specifically, they're not really looking for alternative birth practices, but for many of them, midwifery care makes a lot of sense, and for many of them, they're very accepting of midwifery care because they come from countries where midwifery care (and natural birth!) is the norm.  Almost all of our clients are on medicaid, very few of them speak English, and I'm sure many of them are not here legally, but I think midwifery serves a very good, appropriate and needed role for them, and they do get excellent (if rushed) care (and I think they certainly get more time and better care from the midwives than from many of the other clinic options which might be available to them). 

The only drawback to this, of course, is that it's clinic care: high volume, and fast visits.  

Sounds like you've got some lovely midwives in B.C.  Enjoy your delicious hour long visits!  I hope that I too, someday, might be able to spend that much time to spend with my clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s very much appreciated too.  In fact, I have a feeling a lot of the women I see repeatedly for their prenatal visits really enjoy their visits with me, for that very reason.    </p>
<p>Midwifery serves many different purposes and roles.  For many midwives, this means private practice and offering a vibrant, viable birth alternative to women, which is indeed one of the great things about midwifery, and one of the reasons many women seek out midwifery care.  But in New York, many of the midwifery positions available are in large clinics in hospital settings (although of course birth centers and private practice and homebirth exists here too).  In the hospitals, midwives serve a different role: not so much to offer a viable birth alternative to women who specifically seek out midwifery care (although that sort of happens, just by virtue of having midwives there), but to give excellent, low-risk care to many of the low risk, underserved, immigrant populations which exist in this city.  None of the women in this population really seek out midwives specifically, they&#8217;re not really looking for alternative birth practices, but for many of them, midwifery care makes a lot of sense, and for many of them, they&#8217;re very accepting of midwifery care because they come from countries where midwifery care (and natural birth!) is the norm.  Almost all of our clients are on medicaid, very few of them speak English, and I&#8217;m sure many of them are not here legally, but I think midwifery serves a very good, appropriate and needed role for them, and they do get excellent (if rushed) care (and I think they certainly get more time and better care from the midwives than from many of the other clinic options which might be available to them). </p>
<p>The only drawback to this, of course, is that it&#8217;s clinic care: high volume, and fast visits.  </p>
<p>Sounds like you&#8217;ve got some lovely midwives in B.C.  Enjoy your delicious hour long visits!  I hope that I too, someday, might be able to spend that much time to spend with my clients.
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		<title>by: grass</title>
		<link>http://www.bellytales.com/2007/03/29/the-need-for-speed/#comment-10263</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Crazy - my midwife appointments (I'm in B.C.), 2 so far, are about an hour.  That's one of the main reasons I chose midwifery care.  It's give us the chance to talk about the pros and cons of all the different things, like the quad screens etc.  Anyway, 25 minutes sounds pretty darn fast to me!  I'm sure the extra time is very much appreciated by your clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crazy - my midwife appointments (I&#8217;m in B.C.), 2 so far, are about an hour.  That&#8217;s one of the main reasons I chose midwifery care.  It&#8217;s give us the chance to talk about the pros and cons of all the different things, like the quad screens etc.  Anyway, 25 minutes sounds pretty darn fast to me!  I&#8217;m sure the extra time is very much appreciated by your clients.
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